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Hi there from a noobie :)
I have recently got into the world of ESSB and i'm hooked for sure.
I just have some noobie questions,please don't laugh !

Here goes-
I am running my Behringer B1 mic (which is being replaced soon for a none condensor type)
I run this into the Behringer VX2000 pre amp,then into-
Behringer FBQ 1502 EQ,then into
Behringer DSP 2024,then into the I BOX,then radio.
It's all sounding good although i'm not too keen on the mic so that will be changed.

I think i've done this correctly but i'm just wondering about xlr cables.
At the moment i'm running 1 xlr between each seperate unit going into input 1's and out of output 1's.
I see the EQ had 2 outputs,shall i run 2 xlr's from EQ to the virtualizer?Will it make any difference?

Also my next stage is to buy a Behringer Ultrafex EX 3200,where would I be putting this inline?
Is it the right choice or am I missing something else?
Would it be just before the I BOX?
I see the 3200's are disscontinued now,what is the current equivalent model incase I can't find a 3200 2nd hand?

All the best
WJ !

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Howdy WJ,
Welcome to the Forum!!!!
So glad to have you here and hooked on ESSB!

At the moment i'm running 1 xlr between each seperate unit going into input 1's and out of output 1's.
This is the correct way to connect them.

I see the EQ had 2 outputs,shall i run 2 xlr's from EQ to the virtualizer?Will it make any difference?
The reason it has 2 inputs and 2 outputs is because it is a STEREO Unit. It has one Channel for the LEFT side, and another Channel for the RIGHT side. You are running in MONO so only one side is needed....
BUT... You can 'Daisy Chain' the Channels and have twice the EQ power.

HOW?

This is how you would hook it up, Go into the Channel 1 Input, put a XLR cable between the Channel 1 Output and the Channel 2 Input, Then come out of the Channel 2 Output to the next rack piece.
Now you have 2 EQ's for the price of one.

Also my next stage is to buy a Behringer Ultrafex EX 3200,where would I be putting this inline? Would it be just before the I BOX?
We would put it after the EQ.
Normally the last thing you want in line is the Virtualaizer or any other reverb type of device that adds an 'Effects Tail'.

I see the 3200's are disscontinued now,what is the current equivalent model incase I can't find a 3200 2nd hand?
No, the model Behringer replaced it with doesn't have the Surround Processor which is a vital component that makes the EX3200 do what it does. There is no other model that will do what the EX3200 will do.

Is it the right choice or am I missing something else?
Well, maybe trying to upgrade the EQ to a parametric would be the first thing to do. The models to look at would be the DEQ2496 or the DSP1124.
You have so much more control with a parametric then with a graphic.

Hope that helps ya out!
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Thankyou very much for the reply !
I have just daisy chained the eq and it's much fuller now.
Can I do this with the virtualizer as well or is there no point ?

If I buy a 3200 how shall I wire that?With just one xlr?

Best 73's de WJ

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Howdy,

The Virtualizer is fine with just one channel as you really dont need that much plating. Here are some settings.
http://www.wz5q.net/index/rack_data/dsp2024.htm

Here is a link to our page that tells the best way to hook up the EX3200.
http://www.wz5q.net/index/rack_data/3200.htm

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So for the 3200 I need a double ended mono 1/4" to go from ch1-ch2,then go back to the standard xlr cable to the virtualizer?


Sorry I get confused easily lol

Tnx WJ

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Howdy,
So for the 3200 I need a double ended mono 1/4" to go from ch1-ch2,
Yes, you need an UN balanced mono cable to tye the 2 channels together.


then go back to the standard xlr cable to the virtualizer?
Or could I use this-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0154964924
Yes that is correct.
Sure you can use that one as it is a Balanced Cable.

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Post by whiskeyjack »

Thanks for that.
I have just got hold of a 2nd hand 3200,I will let you know how I go on!
Now I will go play with the virtualizer with the settings you mentioned.


Cheers WJ

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EDIT :lol:
Sussed it all now,thanks for the info :D

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