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I've got some money to spend

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:53 am
by Yamanx
First off its not so much :)

I already have the following equipment

Shure SM58
MIC 2200
Realistc Graphic Equaliser with expander
MCX 2600
iBox
TS 870S

I have ordered a EX3200, which is on its way :)

Now, so far I have not been able to improve the audio with the kit, my old D104 into the 870 sounds better :?:

I will perform the C131 mod, thanks guys for the info on this, and use the ACC at the back of the radio.

Now what next?

A pro 40 mic, maybe?
Parametric EQ FBQ2496 maybe?

Help please :)

SM58...Boooooooo!

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:50 am
by Voodoo Guru
We're not surprised that you do not like the audio coming from the setup you have.
The culprit is that awful, mid range prominent SM58 mic.
Allot of Stage Performers love this mic, and it is good for Live applications,
But we think the best application for this mic is on a snare drum, and used for a snare drum ONLY!
For Audiophile Voice applications, the frequency response is just not there.
In Audiophile applications, the SM58 is pure EVIL!!! :evil:

So the 2 decisions you made, to change the mic your using, and to get a parametric EQ, are very good ones.

The PR-40 is a great choice, so is the RE20, RE27, and a whole host of others depending on what you like.

We like the RE20, RE27 when used with an EQ over the PR40.
Be advised though, the RE20 requires allot of Preamp, you might even have to use both channels of the MIC2200 to get to the proper line level.
The RE27 has more output and doesn't have this problem, but it does have a rise in the upper mid to high frequencies for more clarity.
We like the flatness of the RE20, not to mention its low frequency Density.

As far as your choice on the FBQ2496 Parametric EQ,
It is a good choice other then one failing with that unit,
They did not include a memory storage capability in this unit to be able to store different EQ Filter curves.
This can become a real pain when you want to try different curves or use multiple rigs with the same rack.
Whatever Parametric EQ you decide on, you will discover that the adjustability far exceeds that of any Graphic EQ.
A Parametric is almost a must.

OK, Keep us informed of your progress!!
Take Care,

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:58 am
by Yamanx
Thank you very much indeed for that quick response, I cant stretch to a RE20 or RE27, just a bit too far out of my price range tbh Around $600 or £350 here.

But I am now going to get the Pro 40 as you have also suggested is a good mic :)

Will do some research on parametric EQ's

Will keep you all informed, put up some pics as well :)

In fact here is a fairly recent image, taken before the MIC2200. I was using the XenyX 802 as my pre-amp.

BTW although a prolific freebander I am also a fully licenced HAM.

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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:13 am
by dubcross
Kinda like Yamanx I have been "tweeking" my audio for awhile now.

I'm using an Audio Technica Condensor mic through a Behringer 4 channel mixer with an Alesis outboard compressor. I've been using the 3 eq knobs on the board with pretty good luck. Bass is +3.5Db, Mid is -7.5Db and Highs are +7.5Db. I'm getting good audio reports but I wonder if I ought to put my Behringer DSP 1100 in line. Would it make THAT much difference you think?

Suggestions welcomed!

Thanks,
Dub
N5NXX

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:52 am
by Voodoo Guru
Howdy Dub!!!
Welcome to the Forum.
Glad to have you here.

We are of the opinion that anything you can control more is better!
And you would have sooooo mcuh more control over the frequency response with the DSP1100 then you would with just 3 controls.

After the learning curve is flattened, we think your filter curve will be much better!

Take Care,

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:47 am
by dubcross
Thanks for the reply.

There won't be too much of a learning curve, I'm a professional musician, I've been using professional sound gear for the last 30+ years.

I'll give it a try today.

Dub

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:00 am
by Voodoo Guru
Excellent!!!
You should notice a significant improvement in control over the sonics.
N-Joy!!

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:58 am
by dubcross
You are absolutely right!

I first put the EQ in line behind my mixer but I didn't have any way of monitoring what I was doing. Shortly thereafter I inserted it into my effects loop (which I wasn't sure would work) and that did the trick.

I had a hard time figuring out how the filters work at first. What I was doing to start with was programming 6 differrent channels with 6 different eq's. Once I got it figured out it worked good.

Do you guys know wanything about expanding the transmit bandwidth on a TS-2000? I downloaded some guys software but I can't get it to work. It keeps saying "invalid port number" when I know, for sure, it is right?

Thanks,
Dub